Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

[rsadelle]

So, I run this list. It's not the only Metallica slash out there. There are people on metslash who aren't on the list that dare not speak its name, and vice versa. There are some people on both lists. Most of the people who are no mail and/or lurkers on metslash are on both lists. Most of the people who post fic are only on metslash.

Every time I remind people about our archiving policies, I remind them that crossposting is okay. It is possible to post a fic to a list without granting archiving permission. I know that some of the people on both lists are writers. I know that some of them are extremely good writers. I know that they've posted fic to the other list. And yet, with the exception of one author and one story by a second author, none of them post to metslash.

Why not?

Is it because we don't automatically jump up and down and say, "Oh, you're so wonderful, that was the best story ever, when are you writing the sequel?" to every piece of fic that gets posted? Is it because I actually dare to say what I don't like about fic? I only wish someone would critique my fic the way I've critiqued other people's fic. Well, the more recent stuff anyway; I know just how bad some of my older fic is. Isn't that far more useful to you as a writer than unconditional praise for every word you write?

Or perhaps, like one person who recently unsubbed, they don't like it that I dare say that I don't like some of the writing and list policies of the other list. Apparently the fact that all three S's and various other people from the other list have said extremely negative things about metslash and me in their journals and journal comments is completely irrelevant.

Not that I'm bitter.

Comments

Re: Yet another one commenting on this ... ::sigh::--Kris here

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, you started the fire. Anyway, to the list policy, it IS enforced if you miss 3 dues. Your told to hand in dues or they'll let you go. Simple as that.
(and I know, your going to have some little snit about someone being let go because they don't hand in dues...so go ahead)

Re: Yet another one commenting on this ... ::sigh::--Kris here

[minette.livejournal.com]

I hardly think Ruth expressing her opinion counts as starting a fire. Everybody who commented on this made a choice to do so and by continuing to do so, it lead to this entire event. Let's not play the Blame Game here; or if you do, please take some of the responsibility for your part in it. I certainly acknowledge my part in this whole thing since I commented on it and am continuing to comment on it. I am not blameless here, I admit that.

and I know, your going to have some little snit about someone being let go because they don't hand in dues...

A snit? Over another list's dues policy? I seriously doubt that Ruth is that childish or petty. If you'd actually read her journal closely, you'd see that she had said that she didn't understand why dues had to be paid just for the privilege of being on a list, not that The Other List was wrong for having them. We all acknowledge that your list does things differently from ours, so I really can't see Ruth throwing a tantrum because the list policy is enforced.

Re: Yet another one commenting on this ... ::sigh::--Kris here

[(Anonymous)]

Yes Minette a snit. Ruth enjoys picking apart people's posts and coming to her own conclusions. The wrong conclusions might I add. Then, people like myself come here and set the record straight. That is part of the contributing factor. As for me coming here and adding to the problem, sure, I know damn good and well that I am. But, since she mentioned me unsubbing (not by name, but my mama didn't raise a fool) I figured I might as well make my reasons for leaving very clear.
And yes, I do feel that Ruth is very childish to hold a grudge against a list she is no longer a part of. If she'd just let it go and quit writing about it all the time, the rest of us would just leave it alone as well. Unfortunetly, we feel the need to defend ourselves when we get attacked.

Re: Yet another one commenting on this ... ::sigh::--Kris here

[minette.livejournal.com]

Ruth isn't childish enough to hold a snit over what your list does. She does, however, have strong opinions about lists that use dues as payment for staying on said list. She didn't come to any "wrong conclusions", but merely pointed out that she didn't understand why it had to be done. Again, she made no judgment call on The Other List for having dues.

f she'd just let it go and quit writing about it all the time, the rest of us would just leave it alone as well.

Ruth feels the need to talk about this in her journal. She can write whatever she wants to in it and if she chooses not to let it go, then that's her prerogative. She had a bad time on The Other List and she feels that she has a legitimate need to let it out in her journal. It is her private journal, by the way, so these are her thoughts, her emotions, and her points of view. Calling her childish for having them is churlish and unkind.

Frankly, there were no attacks made on people from your list. No one flamed any of you and questioned your character or your judgment. We merely disagreed with what you said. This does not construe an attack, it merely means that we disagree with what you've said. Ruth has never passed judgment on your listsibs as people and she has never said anything derogatory about Spooky, other than she doesn't like her.

Re: Yet another one commenting on this ... ::sigh::--Kris here

[rsadelle]

I don't believe in dues as a policy for any list. However, whatever policies a list has in place ought to be enforced. Getting away with handing in your dues only once out of every three times you're supposed to doesn't seem like true enforcement of a policy to me.