Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

[rsadelle]

So, I run this list. It's not the only Metallica slash out there. There are people on metslash who aren't on the list that dare not speak its name, and vice versa. There are some people on both lists. Most of the people who are no mail and/or lurkers on metslash are on both lists. Most of the people who post fic are only on metslash.

Every time I remind people about our archiving policies, I remind them that crossposting is okay. It is possible to post a fic to a list without granting archiving permission. I know that some of the people on both lists are writers. I know that some of them are extremely good writers. I know that they've posted fic to the other list. And yet, with the exception of one author and one story by a second author, none of them post to metslash.

Why not?

Is it because we don't automatically jump up and down and say, "Oh, you're so wonderful, that was the best story ever, when are you writing the sequel?" to every piece of fic that gets posted? Is it because I actually dare to say what I don't like about fic? I only wish someone would critique my fic the way I've critiqued other people's fic. Well, the more recent stuff anyway; I know just how bad some of my older fic is. Isn't that far more useful to you as a writer than unconditional praise for every word you write?

Or perhaps, like one person who recently unsubbed, they don't like it that I dare say that I don't like some of the writing and list policies of the other list. Apparently the fact that all three S's and various other people from the other list have said extremely negative things about metslash and me in their journals and journal comments is completely irrelevant.

Not that I'm bitter.

Comments

Re: It's Tri.

[katari.livejournal.com]

::Actually the archiving policy is common practice when there is more then one list in a fandom.

It's not on any list I've ever seen, Sel, and I've seen quite a few, so I don't know why you say that.

::If a problem is brought to our attention...we do adress it...despite what you feel.

You missed the point again. What I was saying, Sel, is that some people on TOL don't feel they can bring a problem to your attention! What's so hard to understand about that? You should really ask yourself why they feel they can't bring a problem or a complaint to you, Stagie, or Spooky, if you feel as you claim you do.

::It was said that people were afraid of being ignored if they opposed us.

Yes, that was said. No one ever said it actually happened, Sel; what we're saying is that it was the air of the list, if you will, that made people feel that way. It eventually led me to unsub, that and the drastic change in archiving policy.

::Oh, and I find it interesting that you claim to have gotten an e-mail from the moderators

So you're denying that the moderators sent a message about the change in policy to the list, which eventually winds up in people's mailboxes, unless they're on no-mail?

::(The three s's seems a tad childish...just as the list you dare not mention! does.)

And yet people wonder why we say 'The Three S's' and 'The List That Dare Not Speak Its Name'. It seems every time we mention one by name a flamewar erupts. I can't speak for anyone else on this, but I, quite frankly, am sick of it.

::You were gone from the list the next day, wonder how that happened?

Simple. I went to chat, told Spooky I'd have to unsub, and was gone. Duh.

::Does pose an interesting question...don't it.

One which I just answered, if you'll see above.

Re: It's Tri.

[katari.livejournal.com]

I plainly stated that I left Tallific after I got the email from the moderators to the list stating the change in archive policy, so you might want to rephrase your reply.

And I'm perfectly willing to let it go, Sel. It would appear that it's the Tallific people that really keep this going, while metslash winds up defending itself for something that we don't think is insulting in any way, but is taken the wrong way by a member of Tallific, although I'm sure your point of view on this is different.

Re: It's Tri.

[katari.livejournal.com]

Sel, I know what was in my inbox. I remember reading the email and wondering why the change happened. I remember going to RS-X chat and talking with people in there about it, many of whom felt the same way about it that I did. I made the decision to unsubscribe from Tallific, went to Tallific chat, told Spooky I was unsubbing, and she unsubbed me. Are we all clear now?

Yes, it was in response to Ruth's entry, in *her* journal, where she has the right to post what she feels. She can't help it if someone from Tallific reads it and takes it the wrong way and/or gets insulted.

You said that no one was getting anywhere with this, and that we should drop it, and on that I agree. We are arguing in circles, and as long as someone isn't telling me that I don't know what I recieved/saw/read, etc., I'm willing to drop it and let everyone else argue if they so desire.