So, I run this list. It's not the only Metallica slash out there. There are people on metslash who aren't on the list that dare not speak its name, and vice versa. There are some people on both lists. Most of the people who are no mail and/or lurkers on metslash are on both lists. Most of the people who post fic are only on metslash.
Every time I remind people about our archiving policies, I remind them that crossposting is okay. It is possible to post a fic to a list without granting archiving permission. I know that some of the people on both lists are writers. I know that some of them are extremely good writers. I know that they've posted fic to the other list. And yet, with the exception of one author and one story by a second author, none of them post to metslash.
Why not?
Is it because we don't automatically jump up and down and say, "Oh, you're so wonderful, that was the best story ever, when are you writing the sequel?" to every piece of fic that gets posted? Is it because I actually dare to say what I don't like about fic? I only wish someone would critique my fic the way I've critiqued other people's fic. Well, the more recent stuff anyway; I know just how bad some of my older fic is. Isn't that far more useful to you as a writer than unconditional praise for every word you write?
Or perhaps, like one person who recently unsubbed, they don't like it that I dare say that I don't like some of the writing and list policies of the other list. Apparently the fact that all three S's and various other people from the other list have said extremely negative things about metslash and me in their journals and journal comments is completely irrelevant.
Not that I'm bitter.
Every time I remind people about our archiving policies, I remind them that crossposting is okay. It is possible to post a fic to a list without granting archiving permission. I know that some of the people on both lists are writers. I know that some of them are extremely good writers. I know that they've posted fic to the other list. And yet, with the exception of one author and one story by a second author, none of them post to metslash.
Why not?
Is it because we don't automatically jump up and down and say, "Oh, you're so wonderful, that was the best story ever, when are you writing the sequel?" to every piece of fic that gets posted? Is it because I actually dare to say what I don't like about fic? I only wish someone would critique my fic the way I've critiqued other people's fic. Well, the more recent stuff anyway; I know just how bad some of my older fic is. Isn't that far more useful to you as a writer than unconditional praise for every word you write?
Or perhaps, like one person who recently unsubbed, they don't like it that I dare say that I don't like some of the writing and list policies of the other list. Apparently the fact that all three S's and various other people from the other list have said extremely negative things about metslash and me in their journals and journal comments is completely irrelevant.
Not that I'm bitter.
Re: It's Tri.
Date: 2001-04-28 06:09 pm (UTC)::I kinda consider it a personal attack when she points out a few of her pros and then names a person who - according to her - doesn't have the same pros...
I don't. I think she's just pointing out the differences between her and someone else.
::And also... somewhere up there Ruth says that any criticism towards the 3 S's - whoever they are, I just have a guess - is a big no-no... or that people don't dare to speak their mind to the boss(es) of our list... THEN, she aknowledges that people have difficulty addressing those in charge, whether it's her or the 3 S's...
You misunderstand. Ruth was saying that to her, it seemed that The List That Dare Not Speak Its Name's general attitude towards criticism of the Three S's was that it was completely badevil, and in point of fact, she's not the only one that feels/felt that way. I noticed it too.
As for her acknowledgement that people sometimes have trouble addressing the people/person in charge, some people do, but on The List That Dare Not Speak Its Name, it seems as though the moderators are rather unreachable, and it sometimes seemed to me that they really didn't care, which is why Ruth tries to make herself available whenever someone has a complaint about the list. She doesn't want to project that vibe that so many of us ex-Other List-ers felt while on The Other List.
Re: It's Tri.--Kris here
Date: 2001-04-30 03:33 pm (UTC)<<<
<<<<but on The List That Dare Not Speak Its Name, it seems as though the moderators are rather unreachable, and it sometimes seemed to me that they really didn't care>>>>
This is simply not the case. I've gone to both spooky and sel on more then one occasion both to talk to and to ask for help and they've helped me every bit of the way.
Re: It's Tri.--Kris here
Date: 2001-05-01 01:56 pm (UTC)