Plot Bunny: Tylers jealousy and service kink negotiation (400 words, Teen)

[rsadelle]

I keep thinking about Brownie coming to visit in Dallas (maybe during the post-season), and he keeps trying to do things like clean up and cook for Tyler, and there's all this tension and it isn't working. They're cooking and sort of fighting when Jamie and Jordie come over for dinner.

"Uh, is this a good time?" Jamie asks. "We can come back later."

"It's fine," Tyler says, and then Brownie just loses it.

"Yeah," he says, "fine." He drops the knife he was using on the counter. "Jamie can help you cook." As he pushes past the Benns, he calls back, "I'm taking your car," and then just leaves.

Jordie is the one to pick up the knife Brownie left behind while Jamie says, "Sorry."

Tyler shrugs and blinks away the beginnings of tears. "We've been fighting all week. It's usually so easy."

Jamie puts his arm around Tyler's shoulders. "We can stay out of your way if we're making it worse."

"No," Tyler says. "I want him to know you. He'd really like you if he'd stop being an ass about it."

They've eaten and the Benns have gone home by the time Brownie gets back. Tyler's sitting on the couch with Marshall's head in his lap, and he listens to Brownie kick off his shoes and drop Tyler's keys back into the bowl, waits for Brownie to come around the couch and sit on the other end of it.

Marshall raises his head to look at Brownie, but stays cuddled up with Tyler.

"I don't even know what you want from me," Tyler says without looking directly at Brownie.

"Just let me take care of you," Brownie says, "like Jamie and Jordie do."

"Fuck you," Tyler says. "They don't take care of me. We hang out because they're my boys and it's fun. I take care of myself. I have a fucking cleaning service, and I can cook for myself. I'm in the fucking playoffs if you haven't noticed. I don't need anyone to take care of me."

"I know you don't," Brownie says. "Would you just let me anyways?" And this time he sounds more desperate and pleading than mad.

And then there would be talking and negotiating and they would figure out that taking care of Tyler is a Thing for Brownie and that Tyler is okay with it as long as they're both clear that he doesn't need it.

Comments

[dine.livejournal.com]

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I don't know why I've developed such a fondness for service kink, but this is wonderful; I loved the negotiation at the end, and Segs making clear he doesn't *need* a keeper, but accepts Tyler's desire to take care of him

[rsadelle]

♥ I'm super invested in people taking care of TSegs, and also TBrown wanting to take care of him. (Last time TBrown was on the radio, one of the fan questions was about if he's better at cooking or cleaning, which led him to say, "I could be a maid.")

[sin-fuego.livejournal.com]

I am so into the idea of the Tylers and service kink. I really liked that it ends with Brownie taking care of Tyler because he lets him, even if it's not required.

[rsadelle]

♥ Me too! I want someone to write a 50,000-word epic where they negotiate and explore and figure it out. I'm also kind of into people being into kink as a choice, not because it's something they have to have.

[oanja.livejournal.com]

I really don't understand this kink personally, but for some reason it makes sense when you write about it. :D Maybe it's also just because I feel like Segs needs someone to take care of him...

[rsadelle]

Here's a really interesting essay on service kink. I'm glad you liked this! I am also definitely into people taking care of Segs.

[oanja.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the link, this was really interesting to read! I think service kink is kind of iffy to me, is because it goes a bit too close to 24/7 D/s dynamic, which I really don't like. So the first part of the article made me realize it can be different things as well. It really made me think, which is always a good thing.

[rsadelle]

Yeah, I found it interesting in the way it goes deep into what service can be and how the person receiving service has a role in acknowledging it.

The thing I find interesting to play around with when it comes to TBrown is the line between service kink and being romantic. He was definitely very romantic with his ex-girlfriend, but there's also a picture of him straightening her hair for her and a creepily sourced (but still on the internet somewhere) picture of him Windexing a glass coffee table while Segs is leaving the apartment and one or two other bros are just lounging on the couch. I just want all the fic about him doing things for people.

[oanja.livejournal.com]

I didn't know that stuff about TBrown. I'd heard the maid comment and the and the stuff about liking to cook and how he would be a good househusband, so it really does make a convincing "canon" base for writing him being service oriented.

I wonder how many people are actually service oriented, but don't think about it in a kink context at all, like they'd just think they really like taking care of people/feeling useful etc. (kink discovery is my favorite...)

[rsadelle]

Possibly my favorite thing TBrown did for his ex: she goes to school in Michigan and is in a sorority. Last year for spring break, she went to visit him in Glens Falls, even though she presumably had warm weather vacation options. So he made his room into a tropical themed vacation for her. One of them tweeted a picture (on an unlocked at the time Twitter):



He also made American Thanksgiving dinner for her and his American roommate when she went to visit him over her Thanksgiving break. This is why I want all the fic about him being romantic with Segs - he's obviously a romantic guy.

Yes! That's the interesting part of service kink. I think people shy away from it because they think of it as demeaning (think about how we talk about customer service jobs), but we also have a cultural value of valuing selfless service. And then mixing that up with what is just personality and what can be done in some sort of kink context (particularly if you think of kink as broader than sex) makes it very interesting.

[oanja.livejournal.com]

Oh that's super romantic and a really nice thing to do! (I don't know if you read Bourne's posts, but this reminded me of the holiday he wanted to spend with his gf and they ended up just flying around the country because he got called up and then sent down... poor guy. I'm glad things worked out better for Brownie) Didn't he also have a thanksgiving with his roommate this last year? I kind of remember that from twitter. And the new tweet about him doing spring cleaning... Feels, feels everywhere. ;__;

Yeah, and like it said in the post, it goes against that ideal situation of egalitarian relationship and how at first people might be envious but then start judging and thinking it's abusive or one person is being taken advantage of. Kink in non-sexual context is so interesting, I really liked that one Carts/Richie fic where they scened together but didn't have sex (sorry off topic)

But I dunno if I'd like to see a story where Segs' kink is being served (so they'd have complimentary kinks) because I usually like reading about Segs getting knocked down a peg or two... :D Idk, maybe I have too low an opinion of him, but I wouldn't trust him with the power of telling Brownie what to do and like getting to reward of punish him for the job he does... ^_^; Or maybe it's just my preference of reading about a more subby Segs.

Wow sorry this might be way too much rambling, I'm sorry... I sometimes get too wordy, because LJ conversations almost never happen anymore and when they do I get excited. :D

[rsadelle]

TBrown Thanksgivings: in 2012, he was living with Konan (American) and Julie came to visit. That was the year TBrown livetweeted the progress of his turkey. In 2013, he was living with Heeter (also American), and they had at least one other Canadian (unfortunately it was Cousins the rapist) over for Thanksgiving. I have no idea who cooked last year, but I hope TBrown did at least some of it.

I'm sooooo fascinated by nonsexual kink. Like, once you take away the sexual element, which is the obvious thing people get out of it, what else is it about? (That Carts/Richie story is one of mine, so not off topic at all!)

I don't know that service is really about being told what to do - it's more providing what the person needs, and think about the distinction between submission and service, like the example of badgering her into taking a rest as an act of service. I'm also super fond of subby Segs, and this is why I so want a story about service top giving Segs everything he wants. Like, it's not about the domination/sadism/whatever for him, but about the part where he's doing something Segs wants and that makes Segs so happy.

I will talk about kink and/or Tylers forever, so no worries about the rambling!

[oanja.livejournal.com]

Is Konan a real name? Because that's hilarious. :D (also would you happen to have the link to that one primer where someone had collected twitter things about all Segs' bros/harem members? I remember it being super helpful but I can't find it anymore) Ew, about the kind of company these guys keep, but yes to adorable thanksgivings.

Haha~ maybe I should have checked that before mentioning the story. :D I have the worst name memory, I just can't keep that stuff in my head... But yes, it's so fascinating! Like how much of it is just mental in a non sexual way. Like a state of mind, which is usually mentioned when it comes to subspace. Also how it all boils down to trust in the end and that is so interesting to me personally, because I'm not a trusting person.

It can be, at least that's what the person who wrote the article mentioned. Obviously it's then tied to some other dynamics I'd imagine, like maybe praise kink or just general submissiveness. But yes, I like the more independent/active kind (I don't know what word I'm looking for) a whole lot more, as applied to this pairing.

Because I'd love to read an epic fic where Brownie is Segs' service top, like from the beginning where they discover what they need and want together over the years (also separately, of course, if this is rl compliant) and maybe they have to take a break or two in the middle because they just can't seem to figure it out and all the distance and the open relationship status is stressful and they both have to and want to concentrate on hockey and life keeps happening etc.

and maybe Segs can't find a top who get's him like Brownie does (it's good with them and he get's off, but afterwards when he looks back at the scene it's never quite right/perfect) and maybe nobody really understands Brownie's need to take care of them [does he get too intense about it? does it feel like too much, if you can't compete with that? Like all the romantic things he did with his gf, if she (not the real person obviously) could never do anything as nice.]

I've re-read this comment twice and it makes almost no sense, but I also can't seem to fix it. I think I'm overcome with feelings... Sorry, I hope you don't regret your last line already. ^_^;

[rsadelle]

Konan is his last name! (Last I heard, that primer had been locked. If you have questions, though, I might know the answers or how to find them.)

Yes, trust! So fascinating - what makes people trust each other, what kind of relationship do they have when they have that kind of trust, how does that trust manifest itself?

Is "self-directed" maybe the word you're looking for?

Nnngh, yessss, I would love to read that story. It sounds SO GREAT. I love people fitting together and complementing each other.